What about Hyper-Threading and IMC?
Core's impressive execution resources and massive shared cache seem to make it the ideal CPU design for SMT. However, there is no Simultaneous Multi Threading anywhere in the Core architecture. The reason is not that SMT can't give good results (See our elaborate discussion here), but that the engineers were given the task to develop a CPU with a great performance ratio that could be used for the Server, Desktop and Mobile markets. So the designers in Israel decided against using SMT (Hyper-Threading). While SMT can offer up to a 40% performance boost, these performance benefits will only be seen in server applications. SMT also makes the hotspots even hotter, so SMT didn't fit very well in Core's "One Micro-Architecture to Rule them All" design philosophy.As far as including an Integrated Memory Controller (IMC), we were also told that the transistors which could have been spent in the IMC were better spent in the 4 MB shared cache. This is of course highly debatable, but it is a fact cache consumes less power. The standard party line from Intel is that keeping the memory controller on the chipset allows them to support additional memory types without having to re-spin the CPU core. That is certainly true, and with the desktop/mobile sectors using standard DDR2 while servers are set to move to FB-DIMM designs, the added flexibility isn't terrible. Techniques such as memory disambiguation and improved prefetch logic can also help to eliminate any advantage an IMC might offer. Would an IMC improve Core's performance? Almost certainly, but Intel will for the time being pursue other options.
Conclusion 1 : AMD K8 versus Intel P8
The Intel Core architecture is clearly the heir and descendant of the hugely successful P6 architecture. However, it has state of the art technology on board such as micro-op/macro-op fusion, memory disambiguation and massive SIMD/FP power.Compared to the excellent AMD K8/Hammer architecture, the Core CPU is simply a wider, more efficient and more out of order CPU. When I suggested to Jack Doweck that the massive execution resources may not be fully used until SMT is applied, he disagreed completely. Memory disambiguation should push the current limits of ILP in integer loads a lot higher, and the massive bandwidth that the L1 and L2 can deliver should help Core to come close to the execution utilization percentages of the current P-M. 33% more execution potential could thus come very close to 33% more performance, clock-for-clock.
So is it game over for AMD? Well, if you read the previous pages, it is pretty clear that there are some obvious improvements that should happen in AMD's next generation. However, there is no reason at all to assume that the current K8 architecture is at the end of its life. One obvious upgrade possibility is to enhance the SSE/SIMD power by increasing the wideness of each unit or by simply implementing more of them in the out of order FP pipeline.
To sustain the extra (SIMD) FP power, AMD should definitely improve the bandwidth of the two caches further. The K7 had a pretty slow L2-cache, and the K8 doubled the amount of bandwidth that the L2 could deliver for example. It's not unreasonable to think a 256-bit wide cache bus could be added to a near-future AMD design.
Finally, there is also a lot of headroom for increasing integer performance. The fact that Loads can hardly be reordered has been a known weak point since the early K7 days. In fact, we know that engineers at AMD were well aware of it then, and it is surprising that AMD didn't really fix this in the K8 architecture. Allowing a much more flexible reordering of Loads - even without memory disambiguation - would give a very healthy boost to IPC (5% and more). It is one of the main reasons why the P-M can beat the Athlon 64 clock-for-clock in certain applications.
Those are just a few examples that are well known. It is very likely that there are numerous other possible improvements that could take the K8 architecture much further.
Looking at the server version of Core ("Woodcrest") and considering that it is very hard to find a lot of ILP in server applications, the only weakness of Core is that there is no multi-threading in each Core. This small disadvantage is a logical result of the design goal of Core, an architecture which is an all-around compromise for the server, desktop and mobile markets. The lack of Hyper-Threading in Xeon Core products might give Sun and IBM a window of opportunity in the heavy thread server application benchmarks, but since Tigerton (65 nm, two Woodcrests in one package, 4 cores) will come quickly, the disadvantage of not being able to extract more TLP might never be seen. Our astute readers will have understood by now that it is pretty hard to find a weakness in the new Core architecture.
Conclusion 2 : The free lunch is back!
It is ironic that just a year ago, Intel and others were downplaying the importance of increasing IPC and extracting more ILP. Multi-core was the future, single thread performance was a minor consideration. The result was that the reputed Dr. Dobbs journal headlined : "the free lunch is over" [1] claiming that only larger caches would increase IPC a little bit and that the days that developers could count on the ever increasing clockspeeds and IPC efficiency of newer CPU to run code faster were numbered. Some analysts went even further and felt that CPU packages with many relatively simple, small in-order CPUs were the future.At AnandTech, we were pretty skeptical about the "threading is our only savior" future, as Tim Sweeney, the leading developer behind the Unreal 3 engine, explained the challenges of multi-threaded development of the next generation of games. The fat, wide OoO core running at high clockspeeds was buried a little too soon. Yes, Intel's Core does not use the aggressive domino and LVS circuit-design strategy that NetBurst designs used to achieve stunning clockspeeds. At the same time, it is a fat, massive reordering CPU which gives free lunch to developers who don't want to spend too much time on debugging heavily threaded applications. Multi-core is here to stay, but getting better performance is once again the shared responsibility of both the developer and the CPU designer. Yes, dual-core is nice, but single threaded performance is still important!
I would like to express my thanks to the following people who helped to make this article possible:
Jack Doweck, "Foo", "Redpriest", Jarred and Anand
References
[1] The Free Lunch Is Over: A Fundamental Turn Toward Concurrency in Software By Herb SutterIntel's Next Generation Microarchitecture Unveiled, by David Kanter, Real World Technologies
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BigT383 - Monday, May 1, 2006 - link
I loved this article. It's due to articles like these that I've been reading Anandtech since before the days of the K6-2.PandaBear - Monday, May 1, 2006 - link
Of course Core should be better than K8, it better be.The only thing I am concerned about the Core architecture is with all these additional stuff, it will probably cost a lot to make, not just the CPU, but the MB, chipset, will also be expensive with the additional high speed circuitry. That means it will probably cost more.
K8 has been 5 years old and it is not bad standing against the latest and greatest. If AMD have something in the pipeline that will be the next monster CPU, it will be great. What I am concern about AMD is whether they can keep their yield up and have enough $ left behind to design K9 and beyond. Don't just sit there and lose the momentum they gain.
saratoga - Monday, May 1, 2006 - link
Core is a pretty conservative design with a pretty small die for a new core. It should be very economical to produce. Probably more so then the chips its replaceing.IntelUser2000 - Monday, May 1, 2006 - link
Not really. Not many expected that Intel will do more than increasing clock speeds and cache sizes since that's what they have been doing that since Pentium II.
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/04/05/intel_conr...">http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/04/05/intel_conr...
The ASP went down. $530 for the fastest mainstream Conroe is rather good.
zsdersw - Monday, May 1, 2006 - link
The pricing put out by Intel suggests that Core will be priced very aggressively. I can't see the 975 chipset costing significantly more than it does now when Core is released.The fact that Core is going to be built on Intel's 65nm process means that the "additional stuff" you refer to will cost less than it would if built on the 90nm process. And the die size probably grew a little, but not enough to offset the cost gains from the 65nm process.
xtremejack - Monday, May 1, 2006 - link
K8 is only 3 years old. Didn't AMD celebrate their 3rd anniversary of Opteron a few days ago.Griswold - Thursday, May 4, 2006 - link
Its been sold for 3 years, but clearly the design is "a few days" older than that.evident - Monday, May 1, 2006 - link
as a junior computer engineer at villanova university, i found this article to be really informative and an awesome read. it's really cool to see the differences between these CPU architectures and shows that they are actually teaching me something useful!PeteRoy - Monday, May 1, 2006 - link
How can you say Netburst wasn't a huge success?I think Netburst was a success when it was launched and it should have died sooner, but it was good for it time and now it will be replaced.
JarredWalton - Monday, May 1, 2006 - link
NetBurst started at 1.5 GHz basically and topped out at 3.8 GHz. Compared to previous architectures, that's pretty tame. P6 went from 150 MHz to 1.26 GHz (and beyond if you want to count P-M). Success monetarily vs. success as an overall design are two different things, and clearly NetBurst ran into trouble. Where are the 5 GHz+ Tejas chips? Waiting somewhere beyond the thermal even horizon.... :)