Unreal Tournament 3 Beta Demo: Top to Bottom GPU Analysis
by Derek Wilson on October 18, 2007 4:00 AM EST- Posted in
- GPUs
Low End GPU Performance
For our low end parts, we will mainly focus on NVIDIA's 8500 and AMD's 2400 parts. This is budget bin hardware that offers the feature set of the latest generation without the price premium (and without the performance necessary for gamers). We've included some older hardware for reference here, as well as he next step up in the current lineup for AMD and NVIDIA.
Looking at 1024x768, it is clear that if the final game is any more taxing than these flyby benchmarks we would want to run at a lower resolution with the 8500 GT or the 2400 XT. The 2600 Pro and the 8600 GT are a very clear step up from this category. The 7600 GT and the X1650 XT serve to fill in the gap between these price points.
The 8500 GT and 2400 XT are well matched in terms of performance here. The 8600 GT leads the 2600 Pro (which essentially ties the x1650 xt in performance).
For our low end parts, we will mainly focus on NVIDIA's 8500 and AMD's 2400 parts. This is budget bin hardware that offers the feature set of the latest generation without the price premium (and without the performance necessary for gamers). We've included some older hardware for reference here, as well as he next step up in the current lineup for AMD and NVIDIA.
Looking at 1024x768, it is clear that if the final game is any more taxing than these flyby benchmarks we would want to run at a lower resolution with the 8500 GT or the 2400 XT. The 2600 Pro and the 8600 GT are a very clear step up from this category. The 7600 GT and the X1650 XT serve to fill in the gap between these price points.
The 8500 GT and 2400 XT are well matched in terms of performance here. The 8600 GT leads the 2600 Pro (which essentially ties the x1650 xt in performance).
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Ecmaster76 - Thursday, October 18, 2007 - link
I bet all those people who bought x1k cards are feeling pretty good right now. Once again, the radeon has shown in the long haul its superior longevity compared to the Geforce (assuming that future UT3 verions and drivers dont change the results significantly.legoman666 - Thursday, October 18, 2007 - link
I'm still running with my x1800xt. The problem is, I never see benchmarks for it for new games. I can't really compare it to the x1950xt either, since they're different cores. Is there any way future reviews (or maybe this reviewcould be updated?) could have the x1800xt benchmarks included?That being said, I can run all of the Orange Box games at 1280x1024, 4xAA, 8xAF, all max details with vsync on and still get 38fps (75hz/2). As long as UT3 isn't much more demanding than the source engine, I will probably be fine. Now that I typed that, I remember that Bioshock uses the UT3 engine. Bioshock also runs great on my machine with all the max details.
I guess a good thing about having a compariatively small monitor (1280x1024 instead of one the larger wide screens) is that I still get decent frame rates since the newer monitors are designed for those huge screens and I'm still using my "tiny" screen. hopefully my monitor is the next thing that gets upgraded.
Spoelie - Friday, October 19, 2007 - link
x1800xt is somewhat comparable to the x1950proit has less shading power but more pixel pushing power, so in shader heavy games like this its general performance will be slightly less than the x1950pro, but it will cope better with stuff like anti-aliasing, upping the resolution & anisotropic filtering.
johnsonx - Thursday, October 18, 2007 - link
I'm personally not too sure about my 1950Pro AGP. I don't seem to be getting such great performance.My system specs out far better than my son's (me=X2@2.5Ghz, 1GB, X1950Pro AGP, Vista) (son=A64-3500, 2GB, 7900GS PCIe, XP Pro), yet he appears to get better performance in UT3. I haven't benchmarked it, but he has all detail levels turned up to max while I run mine with the details one tick above minimum, yet his seems smoother than mine.
Between my slightly faster dual core vs. his single core, and my more powerful video card, I ought to be able to run max detail (we both run 1280x1024 LCD's, which should be a walk in the park for my rig).
His system has only one thing better than mine, which is he has 2GB of ram while I have 1GB... but I haven't noted any swapping, and the game still loads pretty fast so it doesn't seem memory constrained.
I know there are many variables here (Vista vs XP, 1Gb vs 2Gb, AGP vs PCIe), but none of those AFAIK should make all that much difference today (obviously the Vista vs XP thing was a big deal 6 months ago, but the drivers have largely reached performance parity haven't they?). I guess I need to figure out how to run the benchmarks Derek did and see what's what.
Spoelie - Friday, October 19, 2007 - link
it's not the fact that you have 1gig or the fact you have vista, but the combination of those 2 make it really a sub-par gaming machine. You really ought to double the ram if you want to game in vista, and even then the same config will get a bit better performance if it was running xp.Also "seems choppy": do you have an lcd screen? v-sync on then.
mcnabney - Thursday, October 18, 2007 - link
You are running Vista, your son is running XP. Vista cripples gaming performance across the board.ChronoReverse - Thursday, October 18, 2007 - link
Yeah, I have an x1950 and I'm feeling pretty plucky indeed =DMrKaz - Thursday, October 18, 2007 - link
Why do you put the 2600XT in the same bag of the 8600GTS.The price difference is huge.
I can buy one good 2600XT for 100€ and one good 8600GTS for 190€.
The more correct comparison is (I think)
19x0XT = 8600GTS
2600XT = 8600GT
2600PRO = 8500GT
2400PRO/XT = 8400GS
dm0r - Thursday, October 18, 2007 - link
I compared in performance, not price...anyway looks like 2600xt is getting mature with new drivers.I would like to see power consumption tests please
cmdrdredd - Thursday, October 18, 2007 - link
power consumption is covered elsewhere. Game performance reviews/previews/guides are for PERFORMANCE based comparisons.