Faster Graphics For Lower Prices: ATI Radeon HD 4770
by Derek Wilson on April 28, 2009 5:15 AM EST- Posted in
- GPUs
First things first: the Radeon HD 4770 is faster than existing 4800 series hardware (namely the 4830). Yes, this is by design.
We hate to start another article complaining about naming (there seems to be some sort of pervasive renaissance of poor naming this year), but let's talk about why exactly we are in this situation with a look back at something from our RV670 coverage:
At least it's ironic.
Yes, the problem is born out of AMD's attempt at sensible, appropriate naming. The problem is that AMD seems to want to associate that "family" number with the physical GPU than with the a performance class. This is despite the fact that they generally use increasing numbers for "families" that are generally faster. Thus, the 40nm RV740 needs a new family name, and they can't really choose 49xx presumably (by us) because people would be more upset if they saw a high number and got lower performance than if they saw a lower number and got higher performance. So Radeon HD 4770 it is.
When we brought up our issues with the naming scheme, AMD was quick to respond that naming is one of the most contentious things that go on in bringing a graphics card to market. People get passionate about the issue. Passion is great, but not if it confuses, misleads, or distracts the end user. And that's what a decision like this does. There is no practical reason that this card shouldn't be named 4840 to reflect where it's performance falls. After all, the recently released 4890 is host to quite a few tweaks to the physical layout of the chip and it isn't called the 4970.
At the same time, that trailing zero is doing nothing on all AMD hardware. There is an extra number in there that could allow AMD to shift some things around in their naming scheme to retain all the information they want to reflect about architecture generation, processes revision, performance class and specific performance within that class. If we are going to have a model number system, in order to have real value to both the informed and casual graphics card user it needs to be built to properly represent the underlying hardware AND be strictly related to performance. With this move, AMD joins NVIDIA in taking too many liberties with naming to the detriment of the end user.
Now that that's taken care of, what we have today is a 40nm GPU (the first) paired with 512MB of RAM on a $110 card. The package delivers performance at a level between the 4830 and the 4850. First indications were that this would be a $99 part and the performance we see with this card at the "magic" price would be terrific. It's still not bad at a 10% higher price. AMD had indicated that there should be some $10 mail in rebates available for those who are interested in the extra bonus hassle and upfront cost to get the cash.
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- Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - link
ATI will discontinue the 4830 cards in favour of the 4770.http://www.dailytech.com/ATI+Launches+Radeon+HD+47...">http://www.dailytech.com/ATI+Launches+R...+Using+4...
Zingam - Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - link
60+ fps at resolutions above 3000x2000 for $150-200 that I would call modern and good graphics until then I'd rather wait. It's about time for that to happen!strikeback03 - Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - link
Why? Is there even 0.01% of the possible market with a display of that kind of resolution?SiliconDoc - Sunday, June 7, 2009 - link
ATI IS LOSING M0NEY ON EVERY CARD THEY SELL - SO MUCH FOR PROFIT FROM TINY GPU CORES! GREAT LIE THO RED ROOSTERS AND BOOSTERS... GOSH YER SO DANG SMART !" AMD's graphics division (ATI) reported net revenue of $248 million (PDF, page 3) and an operating loss of $38 million in Q2. Revenue fell $14 million from Q1, but was up 17.5 percent compared to the equivalent period in 2007. For the six months ended June 28, 2008, graphics revenue was $510 million with an operating loss of $25 million, compared to revenue of $422 million and an operating loss of $65 million through the same period in 2007. "
READ THAT AS IN THE RED, RED ROOSTERS !
http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2008/08/ati-p...">http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/20...t-market...
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NOW FOR NVIDIA PROFITS! YOU KNOW, THAT'S $$$$ LEFT OVER AFTER MAKING AND SELLING, SOMETHING ATI DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT WITH THEIR PATHETICALLY CHEAP TINY CORE YOU YAPPERS LIKE DEREK KEEP PUSHING ON LOSERS !
" For the three months that ended October 26, profit sank 74 percent to $61.7 million, or 11 cents a share, from $235.7 million a year earlier. Excluding costs from stock compensation and other expenses, earnings were 20 cents a share. This exceeded the average estimate of 11 cents projected by First Call. "
THAT'S CALLED A PROFIT AND STOCK INCREASE THERE RED ROOSTERS, AND ONLY NVIDIA HAS IT ! YOUR RED ATI LOST MONEY - DUHH !
Better make that tiny overheating core MUCH MUCH SMALLER !
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10084168-64.html">http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10084168-64.html
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YES I HATE THE LYING RED ROOSTERS! OF COURSE, THEY ARE LIARS LIARS LIARS !
philosofool - Thursday, September 3, 2009 - link
I never read anything in all caps.Fluxzx - Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - link
Amen.SiliconDoc - Monday, June 8, 2009 - link
Don't you love it - the paper launch with just a tiny trickle of 4770's for sale - you still can't get any at newegg and the parts rans out initially with 2-5 reviews (meaning a tiny part supply).--
Same at Tigerdirect - NOT AVAILABLE
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Same at Amazon - NOT AVAILABLE
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The greatest paper launch scandal ever - and NOT A WORD OF COMPLAINT FROM ANANDTECH BECAUSE IT'S ATI AND NOT NVIDIA !
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Welcome to the ultimate BIAS.
aeternitas - Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - link
My friend got his and loves it. Best deal since Voodoo II.Maybe you just suck?