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  • thebeastie - Thursday, October 10, 2013 - link

    I noticed some of the newer Dlink security cams have a PIR motion sensor built in to get more reliable motion detection.

    I absolutely hate false-positives motion detection where I get an email of a pic/video where the clouds are changing lighting conditions, its just useless.

    PIRed cameras have become the new standard for me, anything that doesn't have a built in PIR sensor falls into the garbage security camera section.
  • name99 - Thursday, October 10, 2013 - link

    I have to agree that Dropcam is WAY too eager with the false positives. I'd say if the camera is watching an empty room, with all curtains drawn (so no outside light changes) it will still generate a false positive about once every eight hours. It's ridiculously bad.

    (My guess is that these are generated by trucks driving past and shaking the house, but obviously I don't know that for sure.) The false positives are my single biggest complaint.
  • Lonyo - Thursday, October 10, 2013 - link

    Would it not make sense to have local recording with optional low clarity cloud upload? Like 5fps or something, maybe even lower, depending on your desire.

    Obviously for the company to make maximum profit they want everything on the cloud so they can get recurring income from subscription fees/etc, but ideally some local storage would be better for most people.
  • JeffFlanagan - Thursday, October 10, 2013 - link

    As Lonyo points out, this device seems to be designed to do more for the seller than for the buyer.

    Uploading a constant video stream via a home Internet connection isn't only a problem for people with capped connections, it's also a terrible use of network resources. The motion detection is on the wrong end of this network connection.
  • homebredcorgi - Thursday, October 10, 2013 - link

    Agreed. I would buy this thing in a heartbeat if it had local recording capability.
  • pixelstuff - Thursday, October 10, 2013 - link

    Yep. In this area the maximum upload speed anyone can buy is 1 Mbps, which translates to about 840 Kbps in reality.

    If I buy anything more elaborate than a baby cam it would have 3-4 cameras. For a business it would likely be more. DropCam definitely won't work in this area.
  • Hrel - Thursday, October 10, 2013 - link

    I will never buy that. Watch as once they have a steady install base that monthly fee slowly rises, then rises again, then just keeps doing that forever. Look at the state of TV (cable, satellite) and internet. (cable, DSL, fiber optic, satellite). Not to mention no matter what the monthly fee is it will always be cheaper in the long run to have it done locally.

    I won't ever do anything ONLY in the cloud. I back up all my gmail stuff locally once/week. No matter what, you just cannot EVER trust the cloud. Power outages happen, internet goes down. Power goes out at least a few times every year here; if my stuff wasn't local and on battery backup I'd be able to do NOTHING while it's out. Fuck that.
  • yousuckzzz - Friday, October 11, 2013 - link

    Haha, this made me laugh. I was one of the lucky ones to see your "Write me some fucking Windows 7" "request" post on /r/sysadmin, where you got downvoted to oblivion for being a fuckwit, and low and behold, I stumble upon your grumpyness here as well. It's funny how everyone and everything seem to work against you, eh? The internet sure is a small place!
  • VoraciousGorak - Friday, October 11, 2013 - link

    And his point is invalid because...?
  • Trefugl - Friday, October 11, 2013 - link

    It definitely looks like they photoshopped the night vision shots (same lighting and shadows as the daylight shots). How am I supposed to believe that the daylight shots are even really from the camera if they can't give me actual night time output for me to judge their product...
  • ganeshts - Friday, October 11, 2013 - link

    That is coming in our review.
  • bobbozzo - Monday, October 14, 2013 - link

    Hi, the (trendnet) cameras I have are several years old, and even the 'HD' one I tried had poor image quality.

    If you review these, I'd be interested in seeing comparisons for IQ vs what else is currently available.

    Thanks!

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