Gigabyte Dual GPU: nForce4, Intel, and the 3D1 Single Card SLI Tested
by Derek Wilson on January 6, 2005 4:12 PM EST- Posted in
- GPUs
Final Words
We would like to begin our conclusion by thanking Gigabyte for being the first to come out with such a creative and bleeding edge product. We love to see companies pushing the envelope whereever possible, and this kind of thinking is what we want to see. Of course, it might be a little easier to work on technology if NVIDIA weren't so tight on restricting what they will and will not enable in their drivers.Unfortunately, in light of the performance tests, there really isn't much remarkable to say about the 3D1. In fact, unless Gigabyte can become very price competitive, there isn't much reason to recommend the 3D1 over a 2-card SLI solution. Currently, buying all the parts separately would cost the same as what Gigabyte is planning to sell the bundle.
The drawbacks to the 3D1 are its limited application (it will only run on the GA-K8NXP-SLI), the fact that it doesn't perform any better than 2-card SLI, and the fact that the user loses a DVI and an HD-15 display connection when compared to the 2-card solution.
Something like this might be very cool for use in a SFF with a motherboard that has only one physical PCIe x16 connector with the NVIDIA SLI chipset. But until we see NVIDIA relax their driver restrictions, and unless Gigabyte can find a way to boot their card on non-Gigabyte boards, there aren't very many other "killer" apps for the 3D1.
The Gigabyte 3D1 does offer single card SLI in a convenient package, and the bundle will be quite powerful for those who choose to acquire it. But we aren't going to recommend it all the same.
As for the Intel solution, a lot rests on NVIDIA's shoulders here as well. With their new Intel chipset coming down the pipeline at some point in the future, it could be that they just don't want it to work well with others. Maybe they just want to sell more of their own parts. Maybe they are actually concerned that the end user won't have the best possible experience on hardware that hasn't been fully tested and qualified to work with SLI. In the end, we will have to wait and see what comes out of NVIDIA in terms of support for other hardware and the concoctions that their partners and customers cook up.
ATI should take note of the issues that NVIDIA is dealing with now, as there are many ways that they could take advantage of the present landscape.
Again, while we can't recommend the Gigabyte 3D1 over standard 6600 GT SLI solutions, we do hope to see other products like this step up to the plate. Ideally, in future single card, multi-GPU solutions, we would like to see full compatibility with any motherboard, the use of true 256-bit memory busses for each GPU (in order to see scalability apply well to memory-intensive settings as well - multiple NV41 GPUs would be nice to see), and three or four external display connectors rather than just two. It may be a lot to ask, but if we're expected to pay for all that silicon, we want to have the ability to take full advantage of it.
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beany323 - Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - link
Wow, I have been planning on getting a new computer (from Cyberpower) and was like, ok get the PCIe...then i see the SLI....so i read up on it..now i am confused! I bought a hp 2 years ago, and now i would be lucky if i could use it to play WoW (i tried already, to old a video card, anyways) i am willing to spend some money but dont want to get stuck with a big paperweight. I thought the idea with 2 cards sounded good (i was even thinking might as well get 2 ultra's :) ) but not sure now... anymore thoughts? Just from reading this thread, you guys know WAY more then i could ever sit down and read...so thanks in advance!!beany323
endrebjorsvik - Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - link
Would it be possible to use two 3D1-cards in non-SLi-mode and still use all the GPU's? Then you would be alble to get serious performance in triple-/quad-monitor-systems.sxr7171 - Sunday, January 9, 2005 - link
I thought the whole point of SLI was to offer an upgrade path that allowed consumers to stagger their spending by upgrading their performance in two stages. Buying a single card with two GPUs that costs the same and performs worse than a single 6800 ultra is quite pointless.There are absolutely no situations where a dual 6600GT card outperforms a single 6800 ultra card. There are no synergies in having two GPUs on the same card and no incentive to buy such a card.
PrinceGaz - Saturday, January 8, 2005 - link
Just in cast that sounded abit harsh, all I will say is would you perosnally swap a 6800GT based card for that 3D1 multi-core card?PrinceGaz - Saturday, January 8, 2005 - link
I'm sorry but I still see no sensible reason whatsoever to buy a dual-core 6600GT card when a 6800GT could be bought for a similar price. I can see lots of stupid reasons for buying the dual-core 6600GT, but nothing whatsoever people have said in the comments or in the review give a good reason for choosing it in preference to a 6800GT. I'm afraid I'm going to have to jump on a bit of a bandwagon and wonder if everything reviewed here is always considered good generally, as I can't remember the last time something got a well deserved slating. Which this 3D1 should have been given because of the hardware compatibility issues, and also software compatibility issues with games that aren't SLI recognised, or the fact it will work at half speed (one core) with games nVidia hasn't bothered looking at.When you review stuff you see good and bad, but all we ever read about here are products which are great, or products which will be very good after they fix this and that. The only review recently which had any constructive criticism was that of normal 6600GT's where you looked at the fan-mounting method. Maybe you only get to see the very best products because that is all the manufacturers will send you (which explains why there was no mid-range/budget memory round-up as they don't want to send a 512MB ValueWhatnot stick that will perform worse than everything else).
What I'd have said about the 3D1 after looking at the performance is that they shouldn't have bothered with a 6600GT dual-core, but instead have done an NV41 based dual-core card. You'd be a fool to buy the 3D1 the way it as at the moment.
Review quotes like "Until then, bundling the GA-K8NXP-SLI motherboard and 3D1 is a very good solution for Gigabyte Those who want to upgrade to PCI Express and a multi-GPU solution immediately have a viable option here. They get the motherboard needed to run an SLI system and two GPUs in one package with less hassle." make me wonder if someone paid you to say that.
AtaStrumf - Saturday, January 8, 2005 - link
*loose some performance* - compared to a more powerful but equally priced single chip solutionAtaStrumf - Saturday, January 8, 2005 - link
johnsonx the reason for buying one card with 2 6600 GTs or two separate 6600GTs instead of one 6800 GT may be in the fact that you get very close to 6800 *Ultra* performance, provided you don't use AA or Aniso in newer games. Granted OC-ing 6800GT will do the same + give you AA/Aniso performance od the same level.I guess the reason to go for SLi is in its ability to provide a cheap upgrade path and not for two GPUs to be put on the same board and save you 0$ + loose some performance. Gigybyte may have missed an important point here. What they should be making is one board 2 x 6800 GTs, since that provides unheard of performance in a single card (something NEW) and/or at least lower the price of 3D1 to make it cheaper than 2 separate cards and of course make it work in non SLi boards. Simply put, give it some tangible extra value over 2 board SLi solution and not the other way around as it is now - only two monitors and such.
MadAd - Saturday, January 8, 2005 - link
Nvidia are looking more and more like 3dfx every day - big boards, sli, late with real releasesId prefer an AIW X900SLI board tho
glennpratt - Saturday, January 8, 2005 - link
johnsonx - I agree, though I have a theory. If your like me and the 10 other computers in your house/immediate family consist of hand me down parts from a couple primary computers, it would be nice to have two decent video cards when you upgrade next. Still stupid...johnsonx - Friday, January 7, 2005 - link
What I find puzzling about this whole SLI thing right now (not this dual-GPU card in particular) is all the people buying an ultra-expensive SLI board and dual 6600GT's to build a new system. I understand buying an SLI board and one 6600GT or 6800GT to allow for future upgrade, and I even understand buying SLI and dual 6800GT's for maximum performance (though it sure seems like overkill and overspending to me).But buying dual 6600GT's on purpose just doesn't make any sense at all. I guess they just want to say they have it? Even though it costs far more and performs the same as a non-SLI board with a 6800GT....
This particular dual-GPU card doesn't make any sense right now either, for all the obvious reasons.
Maybe later....