Just out of interest, Intel doesn't seem to me to have an issue with RAM compatibility and I, for one, don't want to have to buy RAM and commit to one CPU manufacturer. Therefore, would it not make sense to buy the AMD one regardless, knowing it'll work with AMD if you chose to change in future and knowing that Intel doesn't have a compatibility issue? Or does Intel have an issue of which I am unaware?
Intel doesn't have issues because they were the only ones using desktop DDR4 up to this point. The Ryzen specific DIMMs are probably guaranteed to use Samsung chips and not Hynix chips, whereas the Intel specific product lines might have either one. I could be mistaken though. Either way, DDR4 compatibility is a mess. I hope JEDEC comes up with a solution for this for DDR5. Some 16GB+ DIMMs won't boot past 1866...
Hynix needs to work on Ryzen compatibility. Right now you typically have to go with something using Samsung B Die. That being said, I wish manufacturers would work on getting Ryzen/Threadripper up to 3600 with good timings for 16 GB sticks. It's possible to have up to 3866 in some cases, but not with 16 GB sticks. Maybe AnandTech should do a memory compatibility article with Ryzen, Threadripper, and Intel's top end offerings.
Is there a way to quantify speed gain for a higher clock but higher latencies? Meaning, how much does going to 3466 gain, if the latency increases to 16-18-18-38?
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Glock24 - Tuesday, August 15, 2017 - link
No lights and heatspreaders that don't look like Daenerys dragons! Hopefully others follow with similar products.Sadly timings are on the show side.
philehidiot - Wednesday, August 16, 2017 - link
Just out of interest, Intel doesn't seem to me to have an issue with RAM compatibility and I, for one, don't want to have to buy RAM and commit to one CPU manufacturer. Therefore, would it not make sense to buy the AMD one regardless, knowing it'll work with AMD if you chose to change in future and knowing that Intel doesn't have a compatibility issue? Or does Intel have an issue of which I am unaware?eek2121 - Wednesday, August 16, 2017 - link
Intel doesn't have issues because they were the only ones using desktop DDR4 up to this point. The Ryzen specific DIMMs are probably guaranteed to use Samsung chips and not Hynix chips, whereas the Intel specific product lines might have either one. I could be mistaken though. Either way, DDR4 compatibility is a mess. I hope JEDEC comes up with a solution for this for DDR5. Some 16GB+ DIMMs won't boot past 1866...eek2121 - Wednesday, August 16, 2017 - link
Hynix needs to work on Ryzen compatibility. Right now you typically have to go with something using Samsung B Die. That being said, I wish manufacturers would work on getting Ryzen/Threadripper up to 3600 with good timings for 16 GB sticks. It's possible to have up to 3866 in some cases, but not with 16 GB sticks. Maybe AnandTech should do a memory compatibility article with Ryzen, Threadripper, and Intel's top end offerings.yankeeDDL - Saturday, August 19, 2017 - link
Is there a way to quantify speed gain for a higher clock but higher latencies?Meaning, how much does going to 3466 gain, if the latency increases to 16-18-18-38?