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  • cfenton - Saturday, August 26, 2017 - link

    Will that reduction in response time make any real-world difference? We're talking about going from 1/1000th of a second to 1/2000th of a second. Sure, it's faster, but would anyone be able to tell in a blind test?
  • TallestJon96 - Saturday, August 26, 2017 - link

    Its not about reaction times as it is clearity. If the image changes 165 times a second, and each one takes 1ms, you spend 16.5% of the time with a blurry screen. Now thats assuming constant rapid movement, and the extent of the blur can vary, but this can supposedly cut it in half.
  • squngy - Saturday, August 26, 2017 - link

    Yes, but 0.5s is only for GtG, which is traditionally the best case scenario for TN.

    If they actually managed to cut all response time in half this will be very significant, but somehow I doubt it.
  • saratoga4 - Saturday, August 26, 2017 - link

    >and each one takes 1ms, you spend 16.5% of the time with a blurry screen.

    If each transition takes 1ms, you spend exactly 0% of your time perceiving a blurry screen though, since you can't perceive spatial frequencies on such a short time scale.
  • mdrejhon - Sunday, August 27, 2017 - link

    GtG is not the main cause of motion blur. See www.testufo.com/persistence

    Also, you should see the 480Hz monitor review to see how effects are perceived:
    https://www.blurbusters.com/4k-120hz-with-bonus-24...
  • mdrejhon - Sunday, August 27, 2017 - link

    Chief Blur buster here.

    GtG is very important for good strobe backlights (motion blur reduction modes) or ultra-high-Hz. The faster the GtG, the better quality the strobing is, less strobe crosstalk, as more GtG gets crammed into the VBI between refresh cycles.

    0.5ms vs 1ms makes no diff for 60Hz non-strobed though.
  • Lolimaster - Saturday, August 26, 2017 - link

    My Trinitron CRT Monitor 0.0001ms.
  • mdrejhon - Monday, February 19, 2018 - link

    Yes, it is still noticeable, especially with reduced strobe crosstalk for strobed modes. The faster the LCD GtG response, the easier it is to complete pixel transitions in the VBI (finishing LCD GtG in blanking interval between refresh cycles). This produces better motion blur reduction modes.

    Also, it's worth reading www.blurbusters.com/1000hz-journey about why the continued refresh rate race is worth it.

    TL;DR: The progress to 1000 Hz + will eventually produce the equivalent of strobeless ULMB (blurless sample-and-hold) which is closer to real life, since real life has no display-added extra motion blur, nor display strobing.
  • SetiroN - Saturday, August 26, 2017 - link

    Just bring on the goddamn OLED panels already.
  • Alistair - Saturday, August 26, 2017 - link

    I hear that!
  • Alistair - Saturday, August 26, 2017 - link

    I'd buy any oled monitor that was affordable. 1080p, 1440p, 60hz, 120hz... don't care anymore just anything :)
  • Ej24 - Sunday, August 27, 2017 - link

    Agreed. After a few years of using Samsung galaxy devices I just can't tolerate lcd anymore, ips, TN, led back light, doesn't matter, I'm spoiled now.
  • Alexvrb - Sunday, August 27, 2017 - link

    It's one thing to talk about high-end phone displays. But "OLED" by itself doesn't automatically mean superior in all regards. Regardless of the underlying tech, there are compromises to be made, revolving mostly around price. Especially when discussing a 28"+ monitor. A cheap OLED panel (if such a thing existed) isn't guaranteed to be amazing at everything. Similarly, there's a wide gap between entry-level bargain bin TN panels and high-end TN and IPS displays. I've seen some IPS panels that are really impressive. The iPhone 7 display is pretty good (I have family that own iPhones), and I believe that's an IPS panel.

    But back to your phone: A lot of the disparity you're seeing has little to do with the underlying tech and more to do with pixel density (and perhaps color "enhancements"). It's a tiny screen.
  • Lolimaster - Saturday, August 26, 2017 - link

    Im sick of the damn curve, it's a total annoyance for productivity, when will this fad die, like 3d?
  • madwolfa - Saturday, August 26, 2017 - link

    Same here, I'm not buying a curved monitor, period. Unfortunately it's getting harder and harder to get a normal flat screen lately.
  • Diji1 - Sunday, August 27, 2017 - link

    I'm not sure why you would find the curve annoying due to being less productive unless you needed straight lines for some reason. But in that case why are you buying a monitor with features thatmae gaming better?
  • Hurr Durr - Sunday, August 27, 2017 - link

    Do they make you shill on one? Poor dear.
  • Saltank - Sunday, August 27, 2017 - link

    Another monitor announced way before it's release date and even before it's even ready. There hasn't been a single good new "gaming" monitor for over a year now. They should be criticized heavily for these damn carrot-on-a-stick announcements. Especially when most of the panels lead to disappointment because of poor Quality Control (QC) and at least one game-breaking feature on every model.
    Those 4K HDR Acer monitors we heard of in January? Delayed 'till next year.
    Lame.
  • Hurr Durr - Sunday, August 27, 2017 - link

    Gaming monitor can`t be "good" by definition.
  • Alexvrb - Sunday, August 27, 2017 - link

    Depends what you're using it for durr hurr. But you knew that, trollolololol!
  • DanNeely - Monday, August 28, 2017 - link

    If I'd've known how long the new monitor drought was going to last, I'd've bought Acers 32" 4k 60hz GSync monitor last year. TFT Centrals part DB lists a 32" equivalent to the MIA 4k HDR panels; but I haven't seen a single product announcement using it yet.
  • Mikuni - Sunday, August 27, 2017 - link

    TN? No thanks, we aren't in 2005~ anymore.
  • Chad - Sunday, August 27, 2017 - link

    Oled or bust. I can wait w/ what I got 2 years ago. Oled is the only technology that matters.
  • Alexvrb - Sunday, August 27, 2017 - link

    Kindly point us to a similarly priced IPS display (or OLED, Chad) with similar gaming pedigree. 160hz, wide adaptive sync range, ultra-low response times, etc. If you're not in the market for a gaming display, that's cool. But why comment on an article for one? That's just as bad as the people who comment on articles for professional high-accuracy IPS panels and go "oh that refresh rate isn't high enough for me to play games on". Different usage, different markets.
  • theuglyman0war - Thursday, August 31, 2017 - link

    835 snap dragons are driving their own brand of adaptive sync now sometimes at 120hz and with QHD fidelity, wide color gamuts/ HDR 10 to boot. SAMOLED as well...
    but the only Q-sync( mobile adaptive sync ) at 120hz, QHD rez and HDR 10 that I know of uses IZGO display instead of IPS or a self emitting diode variant ( Sharp Aquos R )

    I think the self emitting diode variant of Samsung's QLED tech is supposed to be ready in about a year? ( and is supposed to deliver realistically commercially viable yields for cheaper larger displays tho I am sure the first iterations will b milked at hi prices for the novelty? )
  • theuglyman0war - Thursday, August 31, 2017 - link

    I still don't understand why the only OLED Tv market is 55" and 65" if yields on large displays r supposed to be the expense of the problem?

    ( since 32" dominated the TV market for years why is there no longer a 32" TV market with current HDR and oled TECH? You would think the smaller foot print would be a ready-made solution to leverage gaps in yields that would be spaced tossed in problematic yields? Thus offering a competitive alternative [ if they produced with realistic gaming modes ] to the overpriced gamer branded bait we suffer with now that can't manage existing and aging tech without charging a premium )
  • zodiacfml - Sunday, August 27, 2017 - link

    If it is truly wide gamut, they should have mentioned Quantum Dot somehow.
  • Santoval - Monday, August 28, 2017 - link

    "..but also has a considerably improved color quality, which the rep compared to IPS-based displays."
    No freaking way (perhaps only in the alternative dimension of "marchitecture wonderland"). If that was the case they would have provided color depth and color space data. Twisted nematic tech can never get as good as in-plane switching. By design it is worse in everything but response time.
  • Maxiking - Saturday, August 4, 2018 - link

    0,5 ms by their marketing, just like those 4 ms IPS, 1 ms VA or 1ms TN panels.

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