Yeah, calling this thing x10 when it doesn't support x10 is pretty confusing...especially when x10 protocol is essentially the first smart home protocol.
Yes, I'm confused, too. It's called the X10, and it supports ZigBee, but it doesn't support X10? (originally known as "BSR x10" back around 1980). I still have a ton of X10 modules around the house, and use them every day. It'd be nice if something new came along, which supported them.
Honestly, calling a home automation product X10 seems like it is begging for a lawsuit. But the current owners of the brand may not be in a position to start slinging lawyers right now.
MU-MIMO is mostly pointless with only two antenna. It can only talk to one device at a time with the only benefit being beam-forming, which is already part of 802.11ac MIMO
I don't have much interest in replacing dumb devices with smart ones. It seems like an unnecessary burden that turns more of my leisure time into systems administration chores.
My thoughts exactly. The 'smart' bit of a smart home is that the home knows where you are and when you will be home before you get there so it can turn lights on and off automatically, or turn off the hvac during the day when you are gone (and get it back up in time that the home is comfortable before you get back). But my home is grand central station with our kids, neighbor kids, piano students and the renter coming in and out at all hours. There is no 'off time' for my home, so there is no point to having such smart features. and if we did have such set schedules, it is often just as easy (if not easier) to program dumb equipment to a set schedule as it would be for a smart system to try and guess at our schedule and habits.... and cheaper too!
Yes, exactly! Z-wave and Zigbee are the two big ones. My house is almost all z-wave for motion detectors, light and outlet switches. Its like these designers hate ppl!
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nathanddrews - Thursday, September 7, 2017 - link
... but not X10, the domotics protocol?Samus - Thursday, September 7, 2017 - link
Yeah, calling this thing x10 when it doesn't support x10 is pretty confusing...especially when x10 protocol is essentially the first smart home protocol.Hurn - Thursday, September 7, 2017 - link
Yes, I'm confused, too. It's called the X10, and it supports ZigBee, but it doesn't support X10? (originally known as "BSR x10" back around 1980).I still have a ton of X10 modules around the house, and use them every day. It'd be nice if something new came along, which supported them.
JohnVIII - Thursday, September 7, 2017 - link
You'd think they would include Insteon and/or X10 power line communications protocols.I wonder if they even knew about X10 before naming this product.
CaedenV - Thursday, September 7, 2017 - link
Most likely the protocol is older than most of the engineers that put this thing together lolLord of the Bored - Sunday, September 10, 2017 - link
Honestly, calling a home automation product X10 seems like it is begging for a lawsuit. But the current owners of the brand may not be in a position to start slinging lawyers right now.det_bradlee - Thursday, September 7, 2017 - link
IR, really? How about RF instead?Samus - Friday, September 8, 2017 - link
Yeah, like maybe x10 RF... lolbcronce - Thursday, September 7, 2017 - link
MU-MIMO is mostly pointless with only two antenna. It can only talk to one device at a time with the only benefit being beam-forming, which is already part of 802.11ac MIMOBrokenCrayons - Thursday, September 7, 2017 - link
I don't have much interest in replacing dumb devices with smart ones. It seems like an unnecessary burden that turns more of my leisure time into systems administration chores.CaedenV - Thursday, September 7, 2017 - link
My thoughts exactly.The 'smart' bit of a smart home is that the home knows where you are and when you will be home before you get there so it can turn lights on and off automatically, or turn off the hvac during the day when you are gone (and get it back up in time that the home is comfortable before you get back). But my home is grand central station with our kids, neighbor kids, piano students and the renter coming in and out at all hours. There is no 'off time' for my home, so there is no point to having such smart features.
and if we did have such set schedules, it is often just as easy (if not easier) to program dumb equipment to a set schedule as it would be for a smart system to try and guess at our schedule and habits.... and cheaper too!
Hurr Durr - Thursday, September 7, 2017 - link
...and your teapot can`t DDoS somebody as well.HomeworldFound - Thursday, September 7, 2017 - link
Normal appliances are already burning down tower blocks in Europe, making them smart seems like asking for trouble.Hurr Durr - Thursday, September 7, 2017 - link
That one was because of characteristically low IQ of inhabitants though.Ionizer - Thursday, September 7, 2017 - link
And no zwave support? Stupid.webdoctors - Friday, September 8, 2017 - link
Yes, exactly! Z-wave and Zigbee are the two big ones. My house is almost all z-wave for motion detectors, light and outlet switches. Its like these designers hate ppl!beginner99 - Friday, September 8, 2017 - link
And it doesn't have at least 5gb Ethernet. Fail. No point in having a forward looking device if it lacks essential forward looking features.