Between lighting and The there should probably be one period and a space as opposed to two periods.
"...stops the fans entire at low processor..."
Entire should probably be entirely.
"...PWM fans that minimize the friction on their magnetic bearing."
Fans is a plural word so the word bearing should be changed to bearings.
"...than fans featuring a ball bearing."
This is a similar case. It should probably read, "...than fans featuring ball bearings."
"...going to be during overclocking of AMD’s HEDT products."
Using the word during seems awkward. I suggest the word when instead, but that might be more of a matter of linguistic localization than a legitimate grammatical error.
SIGH... Right before I got deployed overseas, I bought the current hydro 115i model for my upcomig 9700k. I'm out at sea for a few months, and now I see a new model is coming out. There's no chance I can return my currently, unopened one at home... eff!!!!! Why... I hope there's no discernible difference in performance :(
It depends mostly on the heat density of what you're trying to cool - air coolers tend to have fewer overall moving parts and lower air resistance, but there's not much substitute for water if you're trying to cool >200W in a small-ish space!
I've never actually built a system using water cooling but I've been debating it recently and looking into what to buy.. These look like they might hold up nicely on everything except maybe the threadrippers. I have a question though..
I see the orientation rad usually faces out.. Are the fans sucking cool air in? Or pushing air out of the case and over the rad? If it's mounted on top or at the back it's typically exhaust, in front, intake.. but I see them mounted in every order so I am wondering what the benefits are (negatives to..)
Typical water cooling setups direct air from the inside of the case over the radiator and then out as exhaust. This gives you several benefits and causes a few minor concerns. Warm air inside the case is removed with the assistance of the water cooler's fan(s) which reduces the need for supplemental case fans. Dust that would gather in the radiator and its fans instead settles elsewhere in the case or is eliminated/reduced by an intake filter placed somewhere else in your system so your processor (and GPU if you include it in the cooler loop) cooling doesn't suffer as much from debris collection. Of course, you are potentially reducing the cooling capacity of the setup by using air that is slightly warmer due to waste heat generated by other components like a graphics card, RAM, drives, motherboard VRMs, etc. You're also potentially creating a negative pressure environment inside your case because the output rate is higher than the intake rate. People argue that will cause the creation of warm air "bubbles" more readily than a positive pressure case AND cause the intake of dust in places other than where you've got some sort of filter. You'll also potentially experience degraded cooling due to the collection of dust in the radiator more rapidly if the fans pull in dirt directly from the outside world.
Personally, I don't think any of those factors will really make much of a difference in the "at keyboard" experience. Water coolers like these offer vastly greater cooling capacity than even a large aftermarket HSF so regardless of whether or not you're eating warm case air or sucking in dust from the outside, you'll see a cooler running CPU. Just clean out the inside of your computer once in a while like you're probably doing already and it won't matter. The positive and negative pressure debate is more about arguing with other people on the internet than it is about actually seeing a substantial difference in cooling or about the buildup of heat in stagnant spots inside a case. Were I in your shoes and buying any sort of pumped liquid cooling setup, I'd mount it with fans acting as exhaust for the entire system and not worry much about it unless there was some significant problem that I could see in the results of my everyday computing caused by doing it that way.
The pro versions also have ML fans with zero RPM options (0 and 400-2400rpm, just like the new RGB ML fans). The pump base is a different shape, but everything else (other than RGB) seems the same as the pro.
I wouldn't expect noise or cooling to be different, just more shiney.
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PeachNCream - Friday, November 2, 2018 - link
Some typos and errors:"...fans and RGB lighting..The..."
Between lighting and The there should probably be one period and a space as opposed to two periods.
"...stops the fans entire at low processor..."
Entire should probably be entirely.
"...PWM fans that minimize the friction on their magnetic bearing."
Fans is a plural word so the word bearing should be changed to bearings.
"...than fans featuring a ball bearing."
This is a similar case. It should probably read, "...than fans featuring ball bearings."
"...going to be during overclocking of AMD’s HEDT products."
Using the word during seems awkward. I suggest the word when instead, but that might be more of a matter of linguistic localization than a legitimate grammatical error.
Oxford Guy - Saturday, November 3, 2018 - link
"but it remains to be seen how efficient they are going to be during overclocking of AMD’s HEDT products."Should be:
"but it remains to be seen how efficient they will be when cooling overclocked AMD HEDT parts."
wrkingclass_hero - Saturday, November 3, 2018 - link
There was nothing wrong with the statement you quoted, you're just rewording, not correcting.Oxford Guy - Monday, November 5, 2018 - link
"they are going to be" is typical of casual verbal speech, not formal writing.Oxford Guy - Monday, November 5, 2018 - link
"during overclocking" should be "during the overclocking".Oxford Guy - Monday, November 5, 2018 - link
The sentence, even with those corrections, also remains clunky. The use of "when" fixes that.Oxford Guy - Friday, November 2, 2018 - link
"The company’s mag lev bearing promises to generate high airflow and static pressure while making less noise than fans featuring ball bearings."That isn't difficult since every fan design in the known universe is quieter than a single bearing ball bearing fan.*
*When used in its proper orientation, since traditional sleeve fans shouldn't be mounted horizontally.
DanTMWTMP - Saturday, November 3, 2018 - link
SIGH... Right before I got deployed overseas, I bought the current hydro 115i model for my upcomig 9700k. I'm out at sea for a few months, and now I see a new model is coming out. There's no chance I can return my currently, unopened one at home... eff!!!!! Why... I hope there's no discernible difference in performance :(heffeque - Tuesday, November 6, 2018 - link
So many people here are interested on the fact that you can't return your fans because you're deployed overseas. Please, tell us more.PeachNCream - Tuesday, November 6, 2018 - link
Don't act like a trog. Dan is doing something important.cwolf78 - Tuesday, November 6, 2018 - link
You were interested enough to reply, eh? Jokes on you, bud.Diji1 - Saturday, November 3, 2018 - link
But do they operate quieter than Noctua air cooler?It seemed like the smaller AIOs under 360mm couldn't when I was looking.
prime2515103 - Sunday, November 4, 2018 - link
Not even close: https://www.hardocp.com/article/2018/10/31/corsair...Spunjji - Wednesday, November 7, 2018 - link
It depends mostly on the heat density of what you're trying to cool - air coolers tend to have fewer overall moving parts and lower air resistance, but there's not much substitute for water if you're trying to cool >200W in a small-ish space!just4U - Saturday, November 3, 2018 - link
I've never actually built a system using water cooling but I've been debating it recently and looking into what to buy.. These look like they might hold up nicely on everything except maybe the threadrippers. I have a question though..I see the orientation rad usually faces out.. Are the fans sucking cool air in? Or pushing air out of the case and over the rad? If it's mounted on top or at the back it's typically exhaust, in front, intake.. but I see them mounted in every order so I am wondering what the benefits are (negatives to..)
PeachNCream - Sunday, November 4, 2018 - link
Typical water cooling setups direct air from the inside of the case over the radiator and then out as exhaust. This gives you several benefits and causes a few minor concerns. Warm air inside the case is removed with the assistance of the water cooler's fan(s) which reduces the need for supplemental case fans. Dust that would gather in the radiator and its fans instead settles elsewhere in the case or is eliminated/reduced by an intake filter placed somewhere else in your system so your processor (and GPU if you include it in the cooler loop) cooling doesn't suffer as much from debris collection. Of course, you are potentially reducing the cooling capacity of the setup by using air that is slightly warmer due to waste heat generated by other components like a graphics card, RAM, drives, motherboard VRMs, etc. You're also potentially creating a negative pressure environment inside your case because the output rate is higher than the intake rate. People argue that will cause the creation of warm air "bubbles" more readily than a positive pressure case AND cause the intake of dust in places other than where you've got some sort of filter. You'll also potentially experience degraded cooling due to the collection of dust in the radiator more rapidly if the fans pull in dirt directly from the outside world.Personally, I don't think any of those factors will really make much of a difference in the "at keyboard" experience. Water coolers like these offer vastly greater cooling capacity than even a large aftermarket HSF so regardless of whether or not you're eating warm case air or sucking in dust from the outside, you'll see a cooler running CPU. Just clean out the inside of your computer once in a while like you're probably doing already and it won't matter. The positive and negative pressure debate is more about arguing with other people on the internet than it is about actually seeing a substantial difference in cooling or about the buildup of heat in stagnant spots inside a case. Were I in your shoes and buying any sort of pumped liquid cooling setup, I'd mount it with fans acting as exhaust for the entire system and not worry much about it unless there was some significant problem that I could see in the results of my everyday computing caused by doing it that way.
bubblyboo - Sunday, November 4, 2018 - link
Compared to the still relatively new H100i/H115i Pros all these introduce are newer ML fans and Zero RPM cooling?Daedalus685 - Monday, November 5, 2018 - link
The pro versions also have ML fans with zero RPM options (0 and 400-2400rpm, just like the new RGB ML fans). The pump base is a different shape, but everything else (other than RGB) seems the same as the pro.I wouldn't expect noise or cooling to be different, just more shiney.