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  • sweenish - Tuesday, June 9, 2015 - link

    I've been waiting for the wireless adapter for PC. This will probably be my Christmas present.
  • SeeManRun - Tuesday, June 9, 2015 - link

    I too have been waiting for the wireless adapter. I cannot yet find anything about it to buy. If anyone comes across anything, it would be awesome to post a link!
  • SeeManRun - Tuesday, June 9, 2015 - link

    Clicking the source I see it says "This fall".. ugh Batman Arkham Knight with a wired controller...
  • Brett Howse - Tuesday, June 9, 2015 - link

    Sorry meant to add that to the text, it's there now. This fall, as others have said.
  • chizow - Tuesday, June 9, 2015 - link

    Yep, can't wait for that wireless adapter!
  • Wolfpup - Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - link

    Glad they're finally doing an adapter! Hmm, too bad I can't have one paired with both a PC and Xbox simultaneously :-D

    That's nice the new pads can be updated wirelessly too. I *think* maybe at least with the old ones it tells you if there's an update if you're on the correct screen.

    The hard drive thing is lame though...I want a user replaceable drive, I don't care what it comes with.
  • Mr Perfect - Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - link

    Isn't it hackable? The last gen consoles weren't officially user serviceable, but people cracked them open and swapped drives anyhow.
  • B3an - Tuesday, June 9, 2015 - link

    You should mention that the PC wireless adapter isn't released until end of year.
  • WorldWithoutMadness - Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - link

    Whoa... I was thinking to get this but after hearing that release time.
    I might as well go for steam controller.
  • dsraa - Tuesday, June 9, 2015 - link

    Seems a bit high priced to me....I'd rather get a wireless logitech controller for less than half that.
  • iniudan - Tuesday, June 9, 2015 - link

    Or a steam controller. Of course waiting on review first, but most likely getting one simply because I play a lot of strategy game, would be nice to play from a more laid back position from time to time.
  • Penti - Tuesday, June 9, 2015 - link

    Or a wireless X360 controller for about half.
  • TheinsanegamerN - Tuesday, June 9, 2015 - link

    I'll be interested when the hard drive can be replaced like the xbox 360 hard drive. Disposable junk until then.
  • minijedimaster - Tuesday, June 9, 2015 - link

    This is true regardless of the hard drive removable status. It's a console.
  • jhoff80 - Tuesday, June 9, 2015 - link

    Is it really considered having "ditched the proprietary headset connector" when that very clearly still exists side by side with the 3.5mm jack?
  • CoreLogicCom - Tuesday, June 9, 2015 - link

    @jhoff80: Is that the USB connector to hard wire the controller to the console?
  • jhoff80 - Tuesday, June 9, 2015 - link

    Definitely not. It's got the two holes on the side for the 'posts' that the headset connector has, plus it's wider than any micro or mini USB. It's pretty clearly the headset connector right next to the 3.5mm jack.
  • cmdrdredd - Tuesday, June 9, 2015 - link

    Yes, this is because some headsets use that port. The 3.5mm port is just for people who want to use a 4 pole adapter for a PC style headset or an earbud style like from a smartphone. It will be stereo only. For me, I'll stick with what I've been using. An Astro Mixamp Pro via Optical and a chat cable to the controller with the headset adapter.
  • jhoff80 - Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - link

    Oh I totally get why they would keep it. But my point was that it doesn't make sense to say they "ditched the proprietary headset connector" when it's still an option.
  • chizow - Tuesday, June 9, 2015 - link

    Any chance of an updated/die shrunk/faster clocked Xbox APU? I know over the life of the 360, there were constant updates to the internal hardware also.
  • sonicmerlin - Saturday, June 13, 2015 - link

    Probably not 'till 14 nm next year.
  • D. Lister - Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - link

    This mainly aesthetic update is just "too little, too late" for the MS console.

    Both MS and Sony made some very poor choices with their hardware this generation, but as most comparative quality tests would show you, MS has often a significant disadvantage in terms of resolution and/or framerates compared to its Sony counterpart.

    Future DX12 development on PC may allow marginally better and quicker ports to the XB1, but it is highly unlikely that it would regain MS' console market share to a greatly competitive position.
  • cmdrdredd - Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - link

    That doesn't matter when the only way to play halo and forms are xbox
  • TheJian - Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - link

    So you're predicting massively people will buy a $350-400 console for 2 games? LOL. OK. Those two games add another $120 on top. I'll take a shield TV to go and a dozen games and still save hundreds or thousands over it's life on watts and games that are $2-20. If I want the $60 PC equivalents to the majority of console games I can just stream grid for $5-15 a month (still waiting for a price on this for a few more weeks). Even at $15 a month ($180 yearly) that is the cost of 3x$60 titles on xbox1/ps4. My guess is you easily KILL consoles with the number of games you can pound through on GRID. Also android games will be massively improving with the coming set of unreal4/unity5 games and then vulkan adding all the dx12 like features next year probably. Consoles can't do much about their hardware costs, and I think they only survive if they figure out a way to drop prices of games to $30 area as the competition is FAR cheaper and can now STREAM full PC games at a fraction of the cost monthly. 80% of america is on broadband so a large portion of the market can use grid either at 720 or 1080. These users won't miss a console much now, and even less later as Android games amp up and actually use the power in X1 and all the other 14nm socs coming up.

    I bought my xbox360 for those exclusives (not many) but won't do it this time. I'll go android for my NON PC gaming this round (and never buy a MS/Sony/NIN again). Android has far more stuff than I could possibly play already (I have a huge list of stuff I want, just need the right device first, waiting to see what rev2 of the shield handheld looks like), and the list grows monthly it seems. We are not talking angry birds crap either.

    Order & Chaos Online (very nice looking 1.9GB!), Asphalt 8, RavenSword, Dungeon Hunter 4, Modern Combat 5, Eternity Warriors 3, Soulcraft, Aralon Sword & Shadow, type stuff. I could go on, but you get the point. Check out a few of the vids on these and none are made for even K1 yet, let alone X1 level. But they will be coming in the next year. I have no need for xbox1/ps4. PC+Android is more than enough.
  • TheJian - Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - link

    oops, meant dungeon hunter 5...But heck, DH4 looks good too...LOL.
  • ahamling27 - Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - link

    I guess the controller adapter is only for Windows 10..... It's like they hate the openness of PCs. I'm sure there will be a work around soon after release, but it shouldn't even be needed.
  • benderw - Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - link

    Any information on whether this will be using the "die shrink" versions of AMD Processor? Lower power consumption, less fan noise... From what leaked about PS4 (smaller PSU in "slim" version) it looks like Sony made the jump...
  • cmdrdredd - Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - link

    No word on when the new controller will be available separately? I assume around the time the 1TB system appears but not sure. I would replace one of my launch controllers with the new one.
  • Rocket321 - Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - link

    Also excited for the PC wireless controller option to launch - the D-Pad is so much better than the 360 controller...this will be the go to controller for any emulator users looking for a good D-Pad.

    The Steam controller is also interesting...but need to see some reviews. With the "touchpad" D-pad I don't think it will be very good for playing old SNES games.
  • kyuu - Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - link

    Rather wish the wireless adapter for the controller was a tad smaller. Kind of awkward to have such a huge adapter sticking out of my SP3's USB port.
  • Antronman - Thursday, June 11, 2015 - link

    Smart gamers will already own a Logitech F310.

    An amazing controller for the cost of that adapter.
  • kyuu - Thursday, June 11, 2015 - link

    It's a cheap dualshock clone. While I'm sure it's an OK controller, it's not as good as an XBone controller.
  • sonicmerlin - Saturday, June 13, 2015 - link

    Not with the position of that left joystick it isn't.

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